# Inconsistent first layer across bed despite Z-tilt and mesh leveling

**URL:** <https://klipper.discourse.group/t/inconsistent-first-layer-across-bed-despite-z-tilt-and-mesh-leveling/24344>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [July 25, 2025, 6:21am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/inconsistent-first-layer-across-bed-despite-z-tilt-and-mesh-leveling/24344 "2025-07-25T06:21:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![EddyMI3D](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/eddymi3d/32/1981_2.png) [@EddyMI3D](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/EddyMI3D)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 11:31am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/inconsistent-first-layer-across-bed-despite-z-tilt-and-mesh-leveling/24344/21 "2025-08-01T11:31:21Z")

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It does not appear that the leveling and the first layer print are with it.

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**Author:** ![rkutun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@rkutun](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/rkutun)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 11:35am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/inconsistent-first-layer-across-bed-despite-z-tilt-and-mesh-leveling/24344/22 "2025-08-01T11:35:05Z")

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[klippy.log](https://klipper.discourse.group/uploads/short-url/oLIfUQI3vIpLDbp4drdkmDy4pOM.log) (641.8 KB)

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**Author:** ![EddyMI3D](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/eddymi3d/32/1981_2.png) [@EddyMI3D](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/EddyMI3D)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 11:50am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/inconsistent-first-layer-across-bed-despite-z-tilt-and-mesh-leveling/24344/23 "2025-08-01T11:50:50Z")

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BTW: What are you trying to print with? 100°C for the bad and 250°C for the extruder?

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**Author:** ![rkutun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@rkutun](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/rkutun)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 11:52am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/inconsistent-first-layer-across-bed-despite-z-tilt-and-mesh-leveling/24344/24 "2025-08-01T11:52:30Z")

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I was trying to print with ABS, that’s why I used 250°C for the hotend and 100°C for the bed. Should I change them?

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**Author:** ![EddyMI3D](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/eddymi3d/32/1981_2.png) [@EddyMI3D](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/EddyMI3D)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 11:54am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/inconsistent-first-layer-across-bed-despite-z-tilt-and-mesh-leveling/24344/25 "2025-08-01T11:54:59Z")

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Do you have an enclosure?

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**Author:** ![rkutun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@rkutun](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/rkutun)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 11:57am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/inconsistent-first-layer-across-bed-despite-z-tilt-and-mesh-leveling/24344/26 "2025-08-01T11:57:21Z")

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Yes, my printer is enclosed.

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**Author:** ![EddyMI3D](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/eddymi3d/32/1981_2.png) [@EddyMI3D](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/EddyMI3D)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 11:58am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/inconsistent-first-layer-across-bed-despite-z-tilt-and-mesh-leveling/24344/27 "2025-08-01T11:58:25Z")

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Have you tried to do this with PLA?

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**Author:** ![rkutun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@rkutun](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/rkutun)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 12:00pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/inconsistent-first-layer-across-bed-despite-z-tilt-and-mesh-leveling/24344/28 "2025-08-01T12:00:55Z")

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I tried it with PLA before, but not after the recent changes. I didn’t have this issue when I printed with PLA before. But I don’t think it’s related to the filament. During the print, the nozzle scrapes the bed and vibrates heavily in the areas where the print is failing.

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**Author:** ![EddyMI3D](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/eddymi3d/32/1981_2.png) [@EddyMI3D](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/EddyMI3D)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 12:04pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/inconsistent-first-layer-across-bed-despite-z-tilt-and-mesh-leveling/24344/29 "2025-08-01T12:04:26Z")

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If PLA prints fine, then the printer and Klipper work fine.

You may check the slicer settings.

You also may do the bed leveling at 100°C, as you need it for ABS

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**Author:** ![rkutun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@rkutun](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/rkutun)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 12:09pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/inconsistent-first-layer-across-bed-despite-z-tilt-and-mesh-leveling/24344/30 "2025-08-01T12:09:27Z")

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![resim](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/klipper/original/3X/5/a/5ad3fae56fb719ba17b48bf96e330f187ca72a1c.png)

 ![resim](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/klipper/original/3X/4/0/40fe8658d1940f95af7b18718877155862952acd.png)

 ![resim](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/klipper/original/3X/8/1/8165f20999a4aa285b15e1643a187ffc2afe600a.png)

 ![resim](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/klipper/original/3X/5/b/5b248e114e7770fff07a0a27be1ee211597c9af9.png)

 ![resim](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/klipper/original/3X/4/a/4a7d8bc9915eb74d1bf855feacb926c82950867e.png)

 ![resim](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/klipper/original/3X/7/6/76abb0f06b7ba0ae3339248e81bdbe53aec3d1bb.png)

Are there any errors in my Prusa settings?

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**Author:** ![cardoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ec9cab/32.png) [@cardoc](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/cardoc)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 3:10pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/inconsistent-first-layer-across-bed-despite-z-tilt-and-mesh-leveling/24344/31 "2025-08-01T15:10:21Z")

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> [@EddyMI3D](#):
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> You also may do the bed leveling at 100°C

Did you run your mesh at 100 °C? Is klipper adjusting Z for the wrong bed shape?

I’d also adjust the mesh area to exclude the high edge,

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/klipper/original/3X/c/9/c9edc0b4e828ffd2dd0c2d7d4d345b67b32ddf98.jpeg)

I think the high points are “edge effects” and are not accurate.

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**Author:** ![rkutun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@rkutun](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/rkutun)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 5:12am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/inconsistent-first-layer-across-bed-despite-z-tilt-and-mesh-leveling/24344/32 "2025-08-04T05:12:16Z")

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How far should I stay away from the bed edges when defining the mesh area?

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**Author:** ![EddyMI3D](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/eddymi3d/32/1981_2.png) [@EddyMI3D](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/EddyMI3D)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 6:03am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/inconsistent-first-layer-across-bed-despite-z-tilt-and-mesh-leveling/24344/33 "2025-08-04T06:03:42Z")

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You can define the limits of the area in the `[bed_mesh]` section :[Configuration reference - Klipper documentation](https://www.klipper3d.org/Config_Reference.html#bed_mesh)

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**Author:** ![rkutun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@rkutun](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/rkutun)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 6:13am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/inconsistent-first-layer-across-bed-despite-z-tilt-and-mesh-leveling/24344/34 "2025-08-04T06:13:17Z")

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![resim](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/klipper/original/3X/9/a/9aa79d70c40dd6916be4cc30b0f031eb7e8cf59e.png)

I did this by changing the bed leveling positions. This is how it looks. I took 15mm inward from the edges of the printing table.

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**Author:** ![Sineos](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/sineos/32/18_2.png) [@Sineos](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/Sineos)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 6:30am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/inconsistent-first-layer-across-bed-despite-z-tilt-and-mesh-leveling/24344/35 "2025-08-04T06:30:25Z")

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- What kind of probe is this?
- What is it [measured accuracy](https://www.klipper3d.org/G-Codes.html#probe_accuracy)?

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**Author:** ![rkutun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@rkutun](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/rkutun)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 6:36am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/inconsistent-first-layer-across-bed-despite-z-tilt-and-mesh-leveling/24344/36 "2025-08-04T06:36:39Z")

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[https://www.ia.omron.com/product/item/1922](https://www.ia.omron.com/product/item/1922/)

I’m using an inductive proximity sensor: **Omron TL-Q5MC1-Z**  
Here are the details:

- **Type:** Inductive probe (NPN, Normally Open)

- **Sensing Distance:** 5 mm

- **Repeatability:** ≤ 0.01 mm (as per datasheet)

- **Operating Voltage:** 12–24V DC

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**Author:** ![EddyMI3D](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/eddymi3d/32/1981_2.png) [@EddyMI3D](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/EddyMI3D)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 8:31am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/inconsistent-first-layer-across-bed-despite-z-tilt-and-mesh-leveling/24344/37 "2025-08-04T08:31:53Z")

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Have you already run the bed mesh on 100°C?

The surface of a build plate can change significantly in comparison to 70°C

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**Author:** ![Sineos](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/sineos/32/18_2.png) [@Sineos](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/Sineos)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 9:03am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/inconsistent-first-layer-across-bed-despite-z-tilt-and-mesh-leveling/24344/38 "2025-08-04T09:03:37Z")

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A quick look in your logs shows no `x_offset` and `y_offset` defined for the probe. Did I overlook them?

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**Author:** ![rkutun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@rkutun](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/rkutun)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 9:20am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/inconsistent-first-layer-across-bed-despite-z-tilt-and-mesh-leveling/24344/39 "2025-08-04T09:20:55Z")

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Yes, I ran the bed mesh at 100 °C.

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**Author:** ![rkutun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@rkutun](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/rkutun)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 9:24am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/inconsistent-first-layer-across-bed-despite-z-tilt-and-mesh-leveling/24344/40 "2025-08-04T09:24:29Z")

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> [@Sineos](#):
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> A quick look in your logs shows no `x_offset` and `y_offset` defined for the probe. Did I overlook them?

Is the root of the issue the missing `x_offset` and `y_offset` values?

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