# Move out of range

**URL:** <https://klipper.discourse.group/t/move-out-of-range/3607>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [July 28, 2022, 9:29am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/move-out-of-range/3607 "2022-07-28T09:29:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/edb3f5/32.png) [@Mess](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/Mess)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 9:29am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/move-out-of-range/3607/1 "2022-07-28T09:29:32Z")

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Hi, i’m new here and I trying klipper on the Ender 3 S1 Pro for the first time and I love it!

It seems that the problem occurs with larger prints. Smaller prints are going fine.  
After homing and heating it says:

Move out of range: 154.000 364.000 77.474 [0.000]

Can someone help with this?

Thanks!  
[klippy.log](https://klipper.discourse.group/uploads/short-url/wonuGwN6TRHcEILAWhHNgNlKZoh.log) (2.6 MB)  
[moonraker.log](https://klipper.discourse.group/uploads/short-url/exufAP1n1r2eUSySpWh2T3hjHRB.log) (65.3 KB)

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**Author:** ![Mess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/edb3f5/32.png) [@Mess](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/Mess)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 10:03am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/move-out-of-range/3607/2 "2022-07-28T10:03:45Z")

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i THINK I fixed with changing this:

G1 X{X\_START} Y{Y\_START} Z{PRIMER\_HEIGHT} F6000.0

to this

G1 X{X\_START} Y{Y\_START} Z{PRIMER\_HEIGHT} F3000.0

Now it’s printing.

Was this the fix? Or was it the restart that fixed it temporary?

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**Author:** ![EddyMI3D](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/eddymi3d/32/1981_2.png) [@EddyMI3D](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/EddyMI3D)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 12:37pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/move-out-of-range/3607/3 "2022-07-28T12:37:33Z")

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Hello @Mess !

For the Ender 3 has lead screws for the Z-axes, it requires way lower feed rate than X and Y.  
So you should set X/Y and Z in separate lines. E.g.:

```auto
G1 X{X_START} Y{Y_START} F6000.0
G1 Z{PRIMER_HEIGHT} F600.0

```

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**Author:** ![Mess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/edb3f5/32.png) [@Mess](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/Mess)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 2:16pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/move-out-of-range/3607/4 "2022-07-28T14:16:06Z")

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Thanks. I did it like this. Is this ok?

```auto
      G92 E0     
      G1 X{X_START} Y{Y_START} F3000.0
      G1 Z{PRIMER_HEIGHT} F600.0    
      G1 X{X_MAX - 12 * X_START} Y{Y_START} F2000.0 E20
      G1 Z{PRIMER_HEIGHT} F600.0 E20
      G1 X{X_MAX - 12 * X_START} Y{Y_START + PRIMER_WIDTH} Z{PRIMER_HEIGHT} 
      G1 X{X_MAX - 12 * X_START} Y{Y_START + PRIMER_WIDTH} Z{PRIMER_HEIGHT} 
      G1 X{X_START} Y{Y_START + PRIMER_WIDTH} F2000.0 E20
      G1 Z{PRIMER_HEIGHT} F600.0 E20
      G92 E0 

```

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**Author:** ![EddyMI3D](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/eddymi3d/32/1981_2.png) [@EddyMI3D](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/EddyMI3D)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 2:40pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/move-out-of-range/3607/5 "2022-07-28T14:40:58Z")

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If you move the Z-axes, you usually do no extrusion (E20). And if there is no change in the height, you can omit that move too.  
So like this:

> [@Mess](#):
>
> ```auto
> G92 E0     
> G1 X{X_START} Y{Y_START} F3000.0
> G1 Z{PRIMER_HEIGHT} F600.0    
> G1 X{X_MAX - 12 * X_START} Y{Y_START} F2000.0 E20
> G1 X{X_MAX - 12 * X_START} Y{Y_START + PRIMER_WIDTH} 
> G1 X{X_START} Y{Y_START + PRIMER_WIDTH} F2000.0 E20
> G92 E0 
> 
> ```

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**Author:** ![Mess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/edb3f5/32.png) [@Mess](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/Mess)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 2:50pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/move-out-of-range/3607/6 "2022-07-28T14:50:36Z")

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Great thanks! Now I understand it better. I’m gonna try this.

By the way, this is the second time the print pauses on its own. When I press resume, the print resumes. Do you have any idea what that could be?

[klippy (3).log](https://klipper.discourse.group/uploads/short-url/qewylTiDsxYendIIkWnBPobDWK8.log) (6.4 MB)

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**Author:** ![EddyMI3D](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/eddymi3d/32/1981_2.png) [@EddyMI3D](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/EddyMI3D)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 2:59pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/move-out-of-range/3607/7 "2022-07-28T14:59:33Z")

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Maybe there is something in the gcode file that causes the pause.

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**Author:** ![Mess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/edb3f5/32.png) [@Mess](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/Mess)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 3:45pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/move-out-of-range/3607/8 "2022-07-28T15:45:44Z")

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I can’t find anything. But I’m still a noob. Can I upload it for you? Or do you don’t want to do that?

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**Author:** ![EddyMI3D](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/eddymi3d/32/1981_2.png) [@EddyMI3D](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/EddyMI3D)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 3:54pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/move-out-of-range/3607/9 "2022-07-28T15:54:28Z")

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I can take a look on it. You can upload it here as a zipped file.

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**Author:** ![Mess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/edb3f5/32.png) [@Mess](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/Mess)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 5:38pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/move-out-of-range/3607/10 "2022-07-28T17:38:02Z")

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[printer.zip](https://klipper.discourse.group/uploads/short-url/zHE526l8iSsVPXX2TqUXSk70Z1R.zip) (3.5 KB)  
Here you go!

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**Author:** ![EddyMI3D](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/eddymi3d/32/1981_2.png) [@EddyMI3D](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/EddyMI3D)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/move-out-of-range/3607/11 "2022-07-28T17:49:48Z")

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Actually I asked for the gcode file where the pause occur

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**Author:** ![Mess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/edb3f5/32.png) [@Mess](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/Mess)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 8:14pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/move-out-of-range/3607/12 "2022-07-28T20:14:53Z")

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My apologies. Here you go.

[CE3\_Nonlethal\_Door\_Stop\_Multitool (2).zip](https://klipper.discourse.group/uploads/short-url/kVMBUJm8qzMqgUaYOy7Mq4Lxvnt.zip) (1.8 MB)

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**Author:** ![Mess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/edb3f5/32.png) [@Mess](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/Mess)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 8:24pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/move-out-of-range/3607/13 "2022-07-28T20:24:37Z")

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I also have to tell you that I’ve done a lot of installations like telegram, klipperscreen, a tutorial to get V2 screen working that I don’t use anymore, and more. Maybe it’s a good idea to do a complete reinstall?

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**Author:** ![Sineos](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/sineos/32/18_2.png) [@Sineos](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/Sineos)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 8:31pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/move-out-of-range/3607/14 "2022-07-28T20:31:28Z")

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> [@Mess](#):
>
> By the way, this is the second time the print pauses on its own.

```auto
Filament Sensor RunoutSensor: runout event detected, Time 28465.20
Exiting SD card print (position 410777)
Stats 28465.7: gcodein=0 mcu: mcu_awake=0.010 mcu_task_avg=0.000027 mcu_task_stddev=0.000019 bytes_write=1552281 bytes_read=277077 bytes_retransmit=9 bytes_invalid=0 send_seq=26886 receive_seq=26883 retransmit_seq=2 srtt=0.003 rttvar=0.000 rto=0.025 ready_bytes=375 stalled_bytes=0 freq=83998628 heater_bed: target=30 temp=31.2 pwm=0.000 Board_MCU: temp=32.8 Raspberry_Pi: temp=56.5 sysload=0.18 cputime=534.158 memavail=1484152 print_time=877.806 buffer_time=2.458 print_stall=0 extruder: target=215 temp=215.0 pwm=0.291
Stats 28466.7: gcodein=0 mcu: mcu_awake=0.011 mcu_task_avg=0.000027 mcu_task_stddev=0.000019 bytes_write=1553071 bytes_read=277355 bytes_retransmit=9 bytes_invalid=0 send_seq=26902 receive_seq=26902 retransmit_seq=2 srtt=0.002 rttvar=0.000 rto=0.025 ready_bytes=0 stalled_bytes=0 freq=83998626 heater_bed: target=30 temp=31.1 pwm=0.268 Board_MCU: temp=32.8 Raspberry_Pi: temp=57.0 sysload=0.18 cputime=534.188 memavail=1483608 print_time=878.572 buffer_time=2.224 print_stall=0 extruder: target=215 temp=214.8 pwm=0.403
Print already paused

```

Your runout sensor is misbehaving.

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**Author:** ![Mess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/edb3f5/32.png) [@Mess](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/Mess)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 8:40pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/move-out-of-range/3607/15 "2022-07-28T20:40:55Z")

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o-m-g… You are totaly right!

This is TPU and a bit flexible… Indeed when I play with the TPU I see the sensor light go on and of…

So simple! I didn’t noticed it in the log, but now I see it.

Is there any macro/script that send me a message in telegram or webinterface thats says something with filament issue? Now it just pauzes the print without telling whats going on.

Thanks again for your great help! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/edb3f5/32.png) [@Mess](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/Mess)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 9:42am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/move-out-of-range/3607/16 "2022-07-30T09:42:19Z")

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Hi, again.

Again with bigger objects: Move out of range: 154.000 364.000 77.452 [1.000]

I’m printing with the fast Chep profile, but its also with the normale profile.  
The print stops before laying the purge lines.  
With the professional firmware it worked.

I don’t know how to fix it. Can some help me with this?

See log, printer.cfg and gcode file in the zip file.

Thanks!

[printer.zip](https://klipper.discourse.group/uploads/short-url/zy2wtHFthN1vgKaU3maFpohPaFY.zip) (1.3 MB)

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**Author:** ![Mess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/edb3f5/32.png) [@Mess](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/Mess)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 10:01am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/move-out-of-range/3607/17 "2022-07-30T10:01:35Z")

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Guys, I fixed it already to adding G90 before homing!

```auto
      #Home
      G28

      G90

      #Move up to clean bed
      G1 Y{Y_MAX - 20} Z{Z_MAX/4.0} F6000                

      #Heat nozzle and bed
      M190 S{BED_TEMP}                               
      M109 S{EXTRUDER_TEMP} T0          

      #Precondition extruder
      G92 E0     
      G1 X{X_START} Y{Y_START} F3000.0
      G1 Z{PRIMER_HEIGHT} F600.0    
      G1 X{X_MAX - 12 * X_START} Y{Y_START} F2000.0 E20
      G1 X{X_MAX - 12 * X_START} Y{Y_START + PRIMER_WIDTH} 
      G1 X{X_START} Y{Y_START + PRIMER_WIDTH} F2000.0 E20
      G92 E0 

```

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**Author:** ![Mess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/edb3f5/32.png) [@Mess](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/Mess)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 1:46pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/move-out-of-range/3607/18 "2022-07-30T13:46:42Z")

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Hi agian,

New problem: Move exceeds maximum extrusion (9.033mm^2 vs 0.640mm^2)

I went on to print an Eclipse plane. Before this I did it with professional firmware but now with Klipper.

According to the manual Cura needs to be set up a bit differently, but now I get an error message after printing the first line.

I really can’t figure this out. Does anyone know what the problem is?

See zip file.

Thanks in advance!  
[files.zip](https://klipper.discourse.group/uploads/short-url/zGTKz5soC6nd4qSwoVNEG8qBliw.zip) (1.2 MB)

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**Author:** ![Mess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/edb3f5/32.png) [@Mess](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/Mess)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 1:53pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/move-out-of-range/3607/19 "2022-07-30T13:53:11Z")

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Aaaand I solved my own problem again!!

G3 = ARC welder. And in this Cura profile it was on!

So klipper doens’t support ARC welder I think.

Next time I will do my best more to solve the problem instead of posting here first 😉 Great help guys! 😛

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**Author:** ![EddyMI3D](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/eddymi3d/32/1981_2.png) [@EddyMI3D](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/EddyMI3D)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 8:13pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/move-out-of-range/3607/20 "2022-07-30T20:13:33Z")

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If you run Klipper on OctoPrint you can use the Arcwelder plugin.  
That is the benefit with Klipper + OctoPrint: The huge amount of plugins.

> **[OctoPrint Plugin Repository](https://plugins.octoprint.org/)**
>
> The official OctoPrint Plugin Repository

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