# Steeper X moves with stepper z **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 26, 2024, 10:32pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/steeper-x-moves-with-stepper-z/13533 "2024-01-26T22:32:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![KimHJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d26b3c/32.png) [@KimHJ](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/KimHJ)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 10:32pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/steeper-x-moves-with-stepper-z/13533/1 "2024-01-26T22:32:17Z")
Raptor 2 BIQU Manta M8P with CB1 and EBB36 I keep having layer shift on the Y axis. I was planning to add an extra stepper to the Y since I increased the bed from 400 to 800. I set everything up in Klipper and connect a stepper to motor 5 without mounting it, but then the Y didn’t move. Then I switched the cable on motor 4 and motor 5 and Y is working, but the motor I have not mounted only turns when there is movement on the Z axis. Right now I have motor 5 connected to stepper Y and motor 4 connected to the unmounted stepper that turns when Y is moving. Here is my settings in Printer.cfg # Motor1 [stepper\_x] step\_pin: PE6 dir\_pin: PE5 enable\_pin: !PC14 microsteps: 16 rotation\_distance: 40 endstop\_pin: ^!PF4 position\_endstop: 0 position\_max: 400 homing\_speed: 50 # Motor2 [stepper\_z] step\_pin: PE2 dir\_pin: !PE1 enable\_pin: !PE4 microsteps: 16 rotation\_distance: 4 endstop\_pin: probe:z\_virtual\_endstop position\_max: 675 homing\_speed: 50 position\_min: -5.0 second\_homing\_speed: 3 homing\_retract\_dist: 5 # Motor3 [stepper\_z1] step\_pin: PB8 dir\_pin: !PB7 enable\_pin: !PE0 microsteps: 16 rotation\_distance: 4 # Motor4 [stepper\_y] step\_pin: PB4 dir\_pin: !PB3 enable\_pin: !PB6 microsteps: 16 rotation\_distance: 40 endstop\_pin: ^!PF3 position\_endstop: 0 position\_max: 800 homing\_speed: 50 # Motor5 [stepper\_y1] step\_pin: PG13 dir\_pin: !PG12 enable\_pin: !PG15 microsteps: 16 rotation\_distance: 40 #motor1 [tmc5160 stepper\_x] cs\_pin: PC13 interpolate: False run\_current: 1.5 hold\_current: 1.0 sense\_resistor: 0.033 spi\_software\_mosi\_pin: PG6 spi\_software\_miso\_pin: PG7 spi\_software\_sclk\_pin: PG8 stealthchop\_threshold: 0 #motor2 [tmc5160 stepper\_z] cs\_pin: PE3 interpolate: False run\_current: 1.5 hold\_current: 1.0 sense\_resistor: 0.033 spi\_software\_mosi\_pin: PG6 spi\_software\_miso\_pin: PG7 spi\_software\_sclk\_pin: PG8 stealthchop\_threshold: 0 #motor3 [tmc5160 stepper\_z1] cs\_pin: PB9 interpolate: False run\_current: 1.5 hold\_current: 1.0 sense\_resistor: 0.033 #driver\_SGT: 0 spi\_software\_mosi\_pin: PG6 spi\_software\_miso\_pin: PG7 spi\_software\_sclk\_pin: PG8 stealthchop\_threshold: 0 #motor4 [tmc5160 stepper\_y] cs\_pin: PB5 interpolate: False run\_current: 1.9 hold\_current: 1.0 sense\_resistor: 0.033 spi\_software\_mosi\_pin: PG6 spi\_software\_miso\_pin: PG7 spi\_software\_sclk\_pin: PG8 stealthchop\_threshold: 0 #motor5 [tmc5160 stepper\_y1] cs\_pin: PG14 interpolate: False run\_current: 1.9 hold\_current: 1.0 sense\_resistor: 0.033 spi\_software\_mosi\_pin: PG6 spi\_software\_miso\_pin: PG7 spi\_software\_sclk\_pin: PG8 stealthchop\_threshold: 0 [klippy.log](https://klipper.discourse.group/uploads/short-url/vm6mxVYiJeKPQhHJvFGGMxJqaMM.log) (64.7 KB) ---
**Author:** ![limefrog](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/limefrog/32/9762_2.png) [@limefrog](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/limefrog)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/steeper-x-moves-with-stepper-z/13533/2 "2024-01-27T00:48:55Z")
I don’t know about the pinout of the manta, but my octopus for example has two connectors for motor2 for double driven Z-axis. Are you sure not to have mixed up your wiring with such a “copied” connector? ---
**Author:** ![KimHJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d26b3c/32.png) [@KimHJ](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/KimHJ)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 2:24am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/steeper-x-moves-with-stepper-z/13533/3 "2024-01-27T02:24:02Z")
As you can see i already have two motors for the z axis and they works fine. I need a second for the x. ---
**Author:** ![EddyMI3D](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/eddymi3d/32/1981_2.png) [@EddyMI3D](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/EddyMI3D)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 7:33am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/steeper-x-moves-with-stepper-z/13533/4 "2024-01-27T07:33:47Z")
When you upload the klippy.log, there is no need to copy&paste code snippets from the printer.cfg. If you want to do so, please use preformatted text to do so. ![Format](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/klipper/original/2X/6/643ab9def96b03089cfb0c194628129fcc96b3f8.png) ---
**Author:** ![limefrog](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/limefrog/32/9762_2.png) [@limefrog](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/limefrog)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 11:33am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/steeper-x-moves-with-stepper-z/13533/5 "2024-01-27T11:33:01Z")
I just want to point out, that the connectors aren’t in strict sequential order (here Motor3 is doubled): ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/klipper/original/2X/6/637caff7e73b8fab0ef0f7dafab93db1ab6d373f.jpeg) And this sometimes lead to strange results … ---
**Author:** ![EddyMI3D](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/eddymi3d/32/1981_2.png) [@EddyMI3D](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/EddyMI3D)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 11:41am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/steeper-x-moves-with-stepper-z/13533/6 "2024-01-27T11:41:18Z")
How have you connected the steppers to that board? So, what stepper to what connector? ---
**Author:** ![KimHJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d26b3c/32.png) [@KimHJ](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/KimHJ)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 4:08pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/steeper-x-moves-with-stepper-z/13533/7 "2024-01-27T16:08:39Z")
ok, thanks ---
**Author:** ![KimHJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d26b3c/32.png) [@KimHJ](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/KimHJ)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 4:10pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/steeper-x-moves-with-stepper-z/13533/8 "2024-01-27T16:10:42Z")
Motor1 X, Motor2 Z, Motor3 Z1, Motor4 Y and Motor5 Y1 Just as it is in the printer.cfg ---
**Author:** ![KimHJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d26b3c/32.png) [@KimHJ](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/KimHJ)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 4:18pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/steeper-x-moves-with-stepper-z/13533/9 "2024-01-27T16:18:08Z")
In the Manta M8P V2.0 documentation the motors are called 1 to 8 no a and b as you can see on the generic printer.cfg. [Printer.cfg](https://github.com/bigtreetech/Manta-M8P/blob/master/V2.0/Firmware/generic-bigtreetech-manta-m8p-V2_0.cfg) The board picture has no reference to the motors. ![BIGTREETECH MANTA M8P V2.0 PinOut](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/klipper/original/2X/0/052378f8631a509dde913e51271ee1344f217958.jpeg) Here are the settings when naming the motors 3A and 3B. Before I had Motor1 on X, Motor2 on Y and Motor3A on Z and Motor3B on Z1. Then I added the second X to Motor5 and it moved only when Z moved, I thought it was because it was after Z1. Then I changed it to the order I have now, Motor1 X, Motor2 Z, Motor3A Z1, Motor3B Y and Motor4 Y1. When I started the printer to do a Home All theY just moved for a second, but the Steeper I had on the table connected to Motor5 was running. Then I switched the cables on Motor 4 and Motor 5 and I could Home All, then I noticed that the stepper on the table was moving when Z was moving. I also tried to move the stepper to motor 6 and it still turned like it was Z. ---
**Author:** ![mykepredko](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/mykepredko/32/2085_2.png) [@mykepredko](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/mykepredko)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 5:05pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/steeper-x-moves-with-stepper-z/13533/10 "2024-01-27T17:05:47Z")
It is common on main controller boards to put in to “Z” axis stepper motor connectors that are wired in parallel. This is done for printers that use two steppers for the Z axis and are expected to operate together, like this Ender 3 modification: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/klipper/original/2X/8/8934a48c8853893fa02ccf73d765d484adc079a0.jpeg) You should have asked yourself, if there are NINE stepper motor connectors on the Manta M8P main controller board and each one is separate, why aren’t there NINE stepper motor drivers. ---
**Author:** ![Sineos](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/sineos/32/18_2.png) [@Sineos](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/Sineos)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 5:26pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/steeper-x-moves-with-stepper-z/13533/11 "2024-01-27T17:26:48Z")
> [@KimHJ](#): > > In the Manta M8P V2.0 documentation the motors are called 1 to 8 no a and b as you can see on the generic printer.cfg. Be careful. As @EddyMI3D and @mykepredko are trying to point out: - Your board has 9 stepper connectors but only 8 stepper driver - Two connectors are sharing the same driver, most likely 3A and 3B as pointed out above - Typically they can be used (I would not do it) to synchronously drive two Z stepper in a dual Z stepper setup ---
**Author:** ![KimHJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d26b3c/32.png) [@KimHJ](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/KimHJ)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 7:49pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/steeper-x-moves-with-stepper-z/13533/12 "2024-01-27T19:49:14Z")
You are saying that the 4th connection is the same as the 3 and they use same driver? I should wire it like this? Connecter 1 to X in printer.cfg it is motor1 Connecter 2 to Z in printer.cfg it is motor2 Connecter 3 to Z1 in printer.cfg it is motor3 Don’t use Connecter 4 Connecter 5 to Y in printer.cfg it is motor4 Connecter 6 to Y1 in printer.cfg it is motor 5 ---
**Author:** ![KimHJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d26b3c/32.png) [@KimHJ](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/KimHJ)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 7:51pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/steeper-x-moves-with-stepper-z/13533/13 "2024-01-27T19:51:41Z")
To be honest I didn’t count them. ---
**Author:** ![mykepredko](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/mykepredko/32/2085_2.png) [@mykepredko](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/mykepredko)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 8:12pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/steeper-x-moves-with-stepper-z/13533/14 "2024-01-27T20:12:06Z")
> [@KimHJ](#): > > You are saying that the 4th connection is the same as the 3 and they use same driver? > I should wire it like this? > Connecter 1 to X in printer.cfg it is motor1 > Connecter 2 to Z in printer.cfg it is motor2 > Connecter 3 to Z1 in printer.cfg it is motor3 > Don’t use Connecter 4 > Connecter 5 to Y in printer.cfg it is motor4 > Connecter 6 to Y1 in printer.cfg it is motor 5 Yup. That’s what I’m saying. ---
**Author:** ![KimHJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d26b3c/32.png) [@KimHJ](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/KimHJ)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 9:28pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/steeper-x-moves-with-stepper-z/13533/15 "2024-01-27T21:28:30Z")
Ok i will try tomorrow let you know. ---
**Author:** ![limefrog](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/limefrog/32/9762_2.png) [@limefrog](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/limefrog)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 11:46pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/steeper-x-moves-with-stepper-z/13533/16 "2024-01-28T23:46:52Z")
I’m curious, if my first consideration is the correct one. ---
**Author:** ![KimHJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d26b3c/32.png) [@KimHJ](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/KimHJ)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 11:58pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/steeper-x-moves-with-stepper-z/13533/17 "2024-01-28T23:58:15Z")
I will let you know tomorrow. If you are right then I’m mad a biqu for not pointing it out in the manual. I had the original motherboard running with marlin and had no problems with shifting layers ( it shift like 10 mm) and I’m printing at the same speed. The only reason i upgraded to a new motherboard and Klipper was to speed it up. I have now spend over 100 hours and I have a printer that i can’t use. ---
**Author:** ![limefrog](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/limefrog/32/9762_2.png) [@limefrog](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/limefrog)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 12:26am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/steeper-x-moves-with-stepper-z/13533/18 "2024-01-29T00:26:21Z")
… hopefully this becomes to be an easy fix now. ---
**Author:** ![KimHJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d26b3c/32.png) [@KimHJ](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/KimHJ)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 6:05pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/steeper-x-moves-with-stepper-z/13533/19 "2024-01-29T18:05:54Z")
You are correct it works after i moved 4 and 5 one one Connecter up and nothing in the 4th Connecter. Hopefully when i add the second stepper it will stop skipping. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/klipper/original/1X/64419bf2aac6639e6ef5cef200dcd456b0a01ac3.png) [@system](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2024, 4:06am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/steeper-x-moves-with-stepper-z/13533/20 "2024-02-29T04:06:18Z")
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