# Z Offset. Im going CRAZY!
**URL:** https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-offset-im-going-crazy/17198
**Category:** General Discussion
**Created:** [June 21, 2024, 7:32am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-offset-im-going-crazy/17198 "2024-06-21T07:32:22Z")
**Posts on this page:** 19
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@IamDan](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/IamDan)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2024, 7:32am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-offset-im-going-crazy/17198/1 "2024-06-21T07:32:22Z")
### Basic Information:
Printer Model: Ender 3v2
MCU / Printerboard: 4.2.2
Host / SBC: Pi 4
[klippy.log](https://klipper.discourse.group/uploads/short-url/abGsLly4uqKB3Ez1mURItxCEc05.log) (3.7 MB)
klippy.log
### Describe your issue:
…
Hey guys, noob here
For the life of me I cant fiqure out what Im doing wrong. Ive read the Docs, guides, watched videos. It just doesnt play ball.
I have run the PROBE\_CALIBRATE command (BLTOUCH) and dialed the head down using paper as my gauge. Accept the prompt and save the config. It restarts and I get
Klipper reports: ERROR
Option ‘z\_offset’ in section ‘bltouch’ must be specified
Once the underlying issue is corrected, use the “RESTART”
command to reload the config and restart the host software.
Printer is halted.
The few times I have thought I got it correct the print starts with the head way to high.
Can someone please explain to me like Im a child what I am doing wrong?
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### Author:  [@EddyMI3D](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/EddyMI3D)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2024, 12:22pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-offset-im-going-crazy/17198/2 "2024-06-21T12:22:35Z")
Hello @IamDan !
> [@IamDan](#):
>
> save the config
How do you save the config?
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### Author:  [@IamDan](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/IamDan)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2024, 1:00pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-offset-im-going-crazy/17198/3 "2024-06-21T13:00:23Z")
Save\_config in the console
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### Author:  [@EddyMI3D](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/EddyMI3D)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-offset-im-going-crazy/17198/4 "2024-06-21T14:57:50Z")
I’m just a bit confused:
Sometimes you have `y_offset` in `[bltouch]`, sometimes not. Do you delete it?
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### Author:  [@IamDan](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/IamDan)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2024, 8:28pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-offset-im-going-crazy/17198/5 "2024-06-21T20:28:16Z")
I’ve never touched the y offset. I’m starting to think I should have stayed with marlin 🤦
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### Author:  [@IamDan](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/IamDan)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-offset-im-going-crazy/17198/6 "2024-06-24T00:39:22Z")
Should I delete the printer.cfg and start again?
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### Author:  [@EddyMI3D](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/EddyMI3D)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2024, 3:15am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-offset-im-going-crazy/17198/7 "2024-06-24T03:15:01Z")
> [@EddyMI3D](#):
>
> have `y_offset` in `[bltouch]`
Sorry, I meant `z_offset`.
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### Author:  [@IamDan](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/IamDan)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2024, 3:34am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-offset-im-going-crazy/17198/8 "2024-06-24T03:34:25Z")
Yes, I did delete it and replace it. Im basically clutching at straws and trying combinations of everything. Should the values at the bottom of my config (probe\_calibrate results) be copied into the z\_offset position? Do I leave z\_offset at 0?
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### Author:  [@EddyMI3D](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/EddyMI3D)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2024, 11:59am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-offset-im-going-crazy/17198/9 "2024-06-24T11:59:32Z")
> [@IamDan](#):
>
> Yes, I did delete it and replace it.
When you calibrate the probe and the z\_offset, you should not do anything with the values in the config.
Klipper stores the actual value in an area below the config lines.
```auto
#*# <---------------------- SAVE_CONFIG ---------------------->
#*# DO NOT EDIT THIS BLOCK OR BELOW. The contents are auto-generated.
#*#
...
...
#*#
#*# [bltouch]
#*# z_offset = 1.740
#*#
...
...
```
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### Author:  [@IamDan](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/IamDan)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2024, 7:38pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-offset-im-going-crazy/17198/10 "2024-06-24T19:38:47Z")
The problem is that after a PROBE\_CALIBRATE it will comment out the bltouch z\_offset, add its own value at the bottom and then proceed to complain that there is no z\_offset value
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### Author:  [@EddyMI3D](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/EddyMI3D)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2024, 7:47pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-offset-im-going-crazy/17198/11 "2024-06-24T19:47:48Z")
Can you upload the complete
```auto
#*# <---------------------- SAVE_CONFIG ---------------------->
```
block?
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### Author:  [@IamDan](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/IamDan)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2024, 7:50pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-offset-im-going-crazy/17198/12 "2024-06-24T19:50:44Z")
```auto
#*# <---------------------- SAVE_CONFIG ---------------------->
#*# DO NOT EDIT THIS BLOCK OR BELOW. The contents are auto-generated.
#*#
#*# [bed_mesh 60 Deg C]
#*# version = 1
#*# points =
#*# 0.240000, 0.055000, 0.022500, 0.047500, 0.102500
#*# 0.232500, 0.075000, 0.062500, 0.100000, 0.162500
#*# 0.187500, 0.042500, 0.042500, 0.077500, 0.135000
#*# 0.217500, 0.060000, 0.042500, 0.047500, 0.065000
#*# 0.187500, 0.050000, 0.047500, 0.060000, 0.090000
#*# x_count = 5
#*# y_count = 5
#*# mesh_x_pps = 2
#*# mesh_y_pps = 2
#*# algo = bicubic
#*# tension = 0.2
#*# min_x = 15.0
#*# max_x = 188.0
#*# min_y = 15.0
#*# max_y = 191.0
# Client variable macro for your printer.cfg
#[gcode_macro _CLIENT_VARIABLE]
#variable_use_custom_pos : False ; use custom park coordinates for x,y [True/False]
#variable_custom_park_x : 0.0 ; custom x position; value must be within your defined min and max of X
#variable_custom_park_y : 0.0 ; custom y position; value must be within your defined min and max of Y
#variable_custom_park_dz : 2.0 ; custom dz value; the value in mm to lift the nozzle when move to park position
#variable_retract : 1.0 ; the value to retract while PAUSE
#variable_cancel_retract : 5.0 ; the value to retract while CANCEL_PRINT
#variable_speed_retract : 35.0 ; retract speed in mm/s
#variable_unretract : 1.0 ; the value to unretract while RESUME
#variable_speed_unretract : 35.0 ; unretract speed in mm/s
#variable_speed_hop : 15.0 ; z move speed in mm/s
#variable_speed_move : 100.0 ; move speed in mm/s
#variable_park_at_cancel : False ; allow to move the toolhead to park while execute CANCEL_PRINT [True/False]
#variable_park_at_cancel_x : None ; different park position during CANCEL_PRINT [None/Position as Float]; park_at_cancel must be True
#variable_park_at_cancel_y : None ; different park position during CANCEL_PRINT [None/Position as Float]; park_at_cancel must be True
## !!! Caution [firmware_retraction] must be defined in the printer.cfg if you set use_fw_retract: True !!!
#variable_use_fw_retract : False ; use fw_retraction instead of the manual version [True/False]
#variable_idle_timeout : 0 ; time in sec until idle_timeout kicks in. Value 0 means that no value will be set or restored
#variable_runout_sensor : "" ; If a sensor is defined, it will be used to cancel the execution of RESUME in case no filament is detected.
## Specify the config name of the runout sensor e.g "filament_switch_sensor runout". Hint use the same as in your printer.cfg
## !!! Custom macros, please use with care and review the section of the corresponding macro.
## These macros are for simple operations like setting a status LED. Please make sure your macro does not interfere with the basic macro functions.
## Only single line commands are supported, please create a macro if you need more than one command.
#variable_user_pause_macro : "" ; Everything inside the "" will be executed after the klipper base pause (PAUSE_BASE) function
#variable_user_resume_macro: "" ; Everything inside the "" will be executed before the klipper base resume (RESUME_BASE) function
#variable_user_cancel_macro: "" ; Everything inside the "" will be executed before the klipper base cancel (CANCEL_PRINT_BASE) function
#gcode:
[gcode_macro START_PRINT]
gcode:
{% set BED_TEMP = params.BED_TEMP|default(60)|float %}
{% set EXTRUDER_TEMP = params.EXTRUDER_TEMP|default(190)|float %}
# Start bed heating
M140 S{BED_TEMP}
# Use absolute coordinates
G90
# Reset the G-Code Z offset (adjust Z offset if needed)
SET_GCODE_OFFSET Z=0.0
# Home the printer
G28
# Move the nozzle near the bed
G1 Z5 F3000
# Move the nozzle very close to the bed
G1 Z0.15 F300
# Wait for bed to reach temperature
M190 S{BED_TEMP}
# Set and wait for nozzle to reach temperature
M109 S{EXTRUDER_TEMP}
[gcode_macro END_PRINT]
gcode:
# Turn off bed, extruder, and fan
M140 S0
M104 S0
M106 S0
# Move nozzle away from print while retracting
G91
G1 X-2 Y-2 E-3 F300
# Raise nozzle by 10mm
G1 Z10 F3000
G90
# Disable steppers
M84
#*# <---------------------- SAVE_CONFIG ---------------------->
#*# DO NOT EDIT THIS BLOCK OR BELOW. The contents are auto-generated.
#*#
#*# [heater_bed]
#*# control = pid
#*# pid_kp = 69.463
#*# pid_ki = 1.209
#*# pid_kd = 997.664
#*# <---------------------- SAVE_CONFIG ---------------------->
#*# DO NOT EDIT THIS BLOCK OR BELOW. The contents are auto-generated.
#*# [bltouch]
#*# z_offset = 2.500
```
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### Author:  [@IamDan](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/IamDan)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2024, 7:52pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-offset-im-going-crazy/17198/13 "2024-06-24T19:52:04Z")
Is it normal that if I run PROBE\_CALIBRATE again that it will add a new block while keeping the old?
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### Author:  [@EddyMI3D](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/EddyMI3D)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2024, 7:57pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-offset-im-going-crazy/17198/14 "2024-06-24T19:57:13Z")
Issue is, you have multiple
```auto
#*# <---------------------- SAVE_CONFIG ---------------------->
```
blocks.
Only the first one is valid.
Also you have config code after the first
```auto
#*# <---------------------- SAVE_CONFIG ---------------------->
```
block. That’s not proper too.
Delete all lines that start with `#*#` - only those - and add this at the very end:
```auto
#*# <---------------------- SAVE_CONFIG ---------------------->
#*# DO NOT EDIT THIS BLOCK OR BELOW. The contents are auto-generated.
#*#
#*# [bed_mesh 60 Deg C]
#*# version = 1
#*# points =
#*# 0.240000, 0.055000, 0.022500, 0.047500, 0.102500
#*# 0.232500, 0.075000, 0.062500, 0.100000, 0.162500
#*# 0.187500, 0.042500, 0.042500, 0.077500, 0.135000
#*# 0.217500, 0.060000, 0.042500, 0.047500, 0.065000
#*# 0.187500, 0.050000, 0.047500, 0.060000, 0.090000
#*# x_count = 5
#*# y_count = 5
#*# mesh_x_pps = 2
#*# mesh_y_pps = 2
#*# algo = bicubic
#*# tension = 0.2
#*# min_x = 15.0
#*# max_x = 188.0
#*# min_y = 15.0
#*# max_y = 191.0
#*#
#*# [heater_bed]
#*# control = pid
#*# pid_kp = 69.463
#*# pid_ki = 1.209
#*# pid_kd = 997.664
#*#
#*# [bltouch]
#*# z_offset = 2.500
```
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### Author:  [@IamDan](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/IamDan)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2024, 8:05pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-offset-im-going-crazy/17198/15 "2024-06-24T20:05:17Z")
Thankyou! that appears to have cleared the error. Unfortunatly I start work in an hour and woont be able to test it for another 9 or so hours
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### Author:  [@EddyMI3D](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/EddyMI3D)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2024, 8:06pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-offset-im-going-crazy/17198/16 "2024-06-24T20:06:02Z")
Have fun at work - take care.
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### Author:  [@IamDan](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/IamDan)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2024, 8:06pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-offset-im-going-crazy/17198/17 "2024-06-24T20:06:57Z")
Fun and work? HAHA
Thanks again I really do appreciate all your help
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### Author:  [@IamDan](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/IamDan)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2024, 6:40am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-offset-im-going-crazy/17198/18 "2024-06-25T06:40:10Z")
I just want to say thanks agin for your help. The first layers are going down nicely
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### Author:  [@system](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/system)
#### Post date: [July 25, 2024, 4:40pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-offset-im-going-crazy/17198/19 "2024-07-25T16:40:11Z")
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