# Z-Tilt adjustment should respect probe offsets **URL:** \ **Category:** Features\ **Created:** [November 20, 2023, 12:15am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-tilt-adjustment-should-respect-probe-offsets/11720 "2023-11-20T00:15:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![shadowkrazee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@shadowkrazee](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/shadowkrazee)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 12:15am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-tilt-adjustment-should-respect-probe-offsets/11720/1 "2023-11-20T00:15:52Z")
When setting up Z-Tilt on my printer. I attempted to run it for the first time, my nozzle crashed into the bed. This is because my probe is to the right of the nozzle, and I used the x-max value for my probe position, and the probe was off of the bed and didn’t trigger. This also means that in order to probe the left edge of the bed, I’d have to use a negative x-coordinate to position the probe closer to the screw. I propose that the z-tilt adjustment should take configured probe offsets into account, so that the coordinates are more intuitive to configure. ---
**Author:** ![Sineos](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/sineos/32/18_2.png) [@Sineos](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/Sineos)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 7:52am UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-tilt-adjustment-should-respect-probe-offsets/11720/2 "2023-11-20T07:52:37Z")
I’m not sure, I understand what you are reporting. - `Z_TILT_ADJUST` requires probing - All probe commands in Klipper are relative to the probe’s coordinates and need to be setup accordingly - It is a one time setup - For some explanation how this works, refer to [Understanding X and Y Axes Limits and Homing](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/understanding-x-and-y-axes-limits-and-homing/10779) ---
**Author:** ![shadowkrazee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@shadowkrazee](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/shadowkrazee)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 7:38pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-tilt-adjustment-should-respect-probe-offsets/11720/3 "2023-11-20T19:38:55Z")
I apologize for the confusion. I can hardly make sense of my original message either. I had the following setup: [probe] x\_offset: 60 y\_offset: 0 pin: ~!PB7 speed: 10 samples: 3 [z\_tilt] z\_positions: -90, 180 455, 180 points: 0, 180 # Left edge of bed, center 360, 180 # Right edge of bed, center speed: 100 retries: 3 retry\_tolerance: 0.2 Using this config, performing a z-tilt adjustment caused the nozzle to crash into the bed on the right side because the probe was past the right edge. Applying the probe x-offset myself (updating the z-tilt “points” to 0, 180 295, 180) successfully performs the adjustment. My thinking was that the “points” should be interpreted as “where to position the probe” as opposed to “where to position the nozzle” Does that make more sense? ---
**Author:** ![EddyMI3D](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/eddymi3d/32/1981_2.png) [@EddyMI3D](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/EddyMI3D)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 8:49pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-tilt-adjustment-should-respect-probe-offsets/11720/4 "2023-11-20T20:49:44Z")
I think a complete klippy.log would us give much more information. ---
**Author:** ![Sineos](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/klipper.discourse.group/sineos/32/18_2.png) [@Sineos](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/Sineos)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 8:52pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-tilt-adjustment-should-respect-probe-offsets/11720/5 "2023-11-20T20:52:54Z")
Basically I agree with your points. I think it is a bit unfortunate that Klipper is not consistent here: - For the bed mesh min and max values you need to specify **probe** coordinates - For the tilt adjust one needs to specify **nozzle** coordinates (while making sure that the probe stays on the bed) Both systems have their ups and downs: When starting with Klipper I thought it is strange to have to correct the nozzle coordinates by the probe’s offsets to get it right. What I’d at least appreciate is to have it consistent but from today’s point of view it would be a “breaking change” (unfortunately literally breaking) for a lot of users, so guess the best option is to RTFM and to leave it like it is. ---
**Author:** ![shadowkrazee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@shadowkrazee](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/shadowkrazee)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-tilt-adjustment-should-respect-probe-offsets/11720/6 "2023-11-21T17:25:41Z")
I was going to suggest adding a specific callout to that face in the z-tilt documentation, but there already is one: > # Specify coordinates of the nozzle and be sure the probe is above > > # the bed at the given nozzle coordinates. Straight from my config… Thanks for the response, fellas. I’ll read twice post once next time. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/klipper/original/1X/64419bf2aac6639e6ef5cef200dcd456b0a01ac3.png) [@system](https://klipper.discourse.group/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2024, 5:26pm UTC](https://klipper.discourse.group/t/z-tilt-adjustment-should-respect-probe-offsets/11720/7 "2024-01-20T17:26:22Z")
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