MCU Shutdown when plugged into USB, PSU Overload

or better if you have

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Yes, better the latter one…

No, no, no!!!

And that has nothing to do with, that you are from Belgium :wink: Everybody comes from somewhere :wink:

I’m talking about a cheap simple multimeter for 5€ from ali.

From your answer, I understand, you are no electrician?

Let’s do that together!

Electricity can easily kill you!!!

Gotcha, that I can do! I have a multimeter so I’ll test it this evening.

I’ll check with both PSUs as well just to see if that is still a variable.

me ? , yes i am electrican (bt ht and tht ) and electronican :slight_smile: , sorry for understanding , my maternal language is french :slight_smile:

What is ā€œelectrican (bt ht and tht ) and electronicanā€?

I’m a television technician and later on studied it.

May I ask. why you measured with that ā€œin my eyesā€ crap?

My French is just good enough for small talk in a bar. But if you want it in French. I’ll give it a try :wink:

But French might be counterproductive in this forum.

Easy, stay friendly, ok?

Trouvons une solution pour @jake_161 .

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no I didn’t measure anything, I was showing what a ā€œtesterā€ was, even if it’s basic it’s enough to see if there is a current leak :), otherwise I use fluke, philips, agilent , hp, ect (I have my electronics lab)

the idea being to see if it came from a current leak :wink:

after to be more precise it is indeed necessary a better device and some notion of electricity to deduce from where comes the concern

bt is ā€œbasse tensionā€ = low voltage , ht is ā€œhaute tensionā€ = high voltage , THT is ā€œtres haute tensionā€ = very high voltage (150kV and high … ) i my ā€œlicenseā€ for this :slight_smile:

my older job is audiotechnican for music event (30 year … ) the leakage current is lot of all day in this job :wink:

solution , @jake_161 check current and voltage leakage ground in this installation (home and computer/printer setup ) :slight_smile:

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I’m totally cool and want to solve his problem.

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Hi maddoc,

my intention is to solve your problem.

Measuring would and keep you save.

Right, that’s what we are talking about.

Yes, cheap multimeter should be your choice.

Sorry, that was too cryptic for me. no offense.

Ok, so we are ā€œalmostā€ the same. There is no video without audio :stuck_out_tongue:

Cool, set it on solved.

Sorry, read your post before maddocs last post.

you mismach , this is not my post :slight_smile: , i not need help ^^ but jake_161 needs help :wink:

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Too much writing and too sleepy :crazy_face: Thanks for the hint, I hope our conversation may help @jake_161.

So I checked the voltage coming off the USB casing and it was exactly 12v. It seems my USB is dumping straight from the PSU. (No wonder its overloaded lol)

I’ll do some digging to see if I can figure out a cause, but please, let me know if you guys have any thoughts!

BIG DISCOVERY!!

I was checking continuity between the positive and negative 12v input on the board (The 5A one) and it seems that it is intermittently shorting. When i wiggle the wires a bit, I get continuity. Wiggle again and no continuity. The moment I get continuity between them, I also get continuity on the ground shielding of the USB B port. So it seems that if I could fix the short at the terminal, everything will work as normal!

Here is a picture of the continuity between the positive and negative terminals. I’m assuming this should be zero?

printer off ? , what mode your tester ? , if is not volt on screen , but ohm ! you are in diode test mode , no ok :slight_smile:

in ohm mode , check negative pole supply , and metal chassis (screw , motor mount , or other part in contact with earth )

if 0ohm to 10ohm , good , if infinite or + to 100ohm no good

you master psu is 12V output ?

if you have 12V ,positive and negative out , and not stable if you shake wire , possibly bad connection , or wire broke , check this thats :slight_smile:

I was using the continuity testing mode, it would beep intermittently when testing the terminals even with no wires connecting them. After rewiring I still go the overload issue.

I have purchased an SKR Mini E3 to see if the board swap fixes the problem. We’ll see!

you have test leakage current in computer to printer ? ( one probe of tester in earth of computer ( ex : nue case steel or screw) and other probe to earth of printer ( ex= shield of usb ) tester in 300Vac mode before , and second test in 300Vdc mode :slight_smile: off course , testing with usb cable NOT CONNECTED to printer!! and computer and printer ON

Although I very much appreciate the willingness to help, I would prefer to keep such ā€œelectrifyingā€ topics out of this forum:

  • From around 50 V onwards electricity can be lethal
  • My general advice is to stay clear of such topics if you are lacking the needed background and instead search for professional help
  • We cannot keep anyone from electrocuting themselves but we can prevent anyone doing so because he followed some well-meant advice from this forum

I know, you will now say ā€œwe are only working on the 24V rail currentlyā€, but:

  1. This is a matter of principle
  2. We know nothing about the surrounding, e.g. protective earth conductor (do we have one? is it working?), circuit breakers, earth-leakage CB etc.
  3. We know nothing about the used equipment, used measuring devices etc.

Finally nobody here and even less the board’s official want to end up in some liability discussion should something unwanted happen.

Exact, and I understand that the forum does not take responsibility but if he has a earth problem, anyone who touches a metal part in his home will be in ā€œdangerā€, if this is the case he must have an electrician come to solve it. the problem of its installation before doing anything else! if no earth concerns, he simply has to change his 12V power supply (or have it done)

See, this is exactly what I meant:

  • We are not here to speculate about such topics. We know nothing about the surrounding and quality of installation nor do we have a mandate to work on it
  • You @maddoc might be entitled by law to work on such topics, as well as I would be
  • The OP apparently lacks the knowledge and training

So, the above was a polite way of saying: Please stop right here and now.